Classic Car Watch
Monte Carlos and Some Bargains
|NOTE: This column displays cars I have found on the Internet. I am not selling them. Please follow the links if you are interest in a car. Be mindful of the date this article was published. For an explanation why I do this read the original column here.|
June 1, 2009
By Scott Lewis
A few months ago I ran across a couple of first generation Monte Carlos. Long time readers know I like this oversized Chevelles. I wanted to use them in this column. So they got the ball rolling with a few others I found along the way. I threw in a Cougar because it fits the "personal luxury" car theme of the Monte.
I am also taking this time to list a handful of cars that have been going down in price. That's right, these cars are dropping. This could be the time to get a bargain, or it could be a time to be careful in a declining market. Did the price go down because of the economy, were the cars overpriced, were they on consignment and the sellers wanted to push for a sale? All good questions that I don't have the answers to. Just remember, everything is negotiable.
I also have one special car. A car from the 3rd editing of this column is making a return. Yes, I saw the same car for sale again 5 years later. Have a look at the Frost Green Dodge Dart below.
1972 Chevrolet Monte Carlo - $13,850
Description: 350 4 barrel with A/C. A rare classic! This was the last year for the "first generation" body style. Features bucket seats and popular center console with "u shifter". Recent improvements made to the vehicle include: new carpet, new weather stripping, new chrome trim, fresh paint ($5,300 paint job), upgraded suspension with Hotchkis springs front and rear, rear tubular control arms and front sway bar, new brake booster, and master cylinder, Morris classic concepts 3 point seat belts, new Rallye wheels and BFG tires, upgraded air conditioning with R134, new ignition switch, new battery, and includes original build sheet and car cover. They don’t get any nicer!
Source: Arizona Connection
Comments: I listed this one first because it is closest to what I
want. It has buckets with the factory console, and some suspension
modifications. Considering that we have matching numbers cars below, we
would need to verify that with this car. Also, we need to inspect this
car carefully since we would be relying on the skills and craftsmanship
of the modifications. If this car really has a 5 grand paint job it
should be near show quality.
1972 Chevrolet Monte Carlo - $11,500
Description:1972 Chevrolet Monte Carlo, 2 door hardtop, numbers matching 350, turbo 350 trans, factory air, am/fm stereo, power steering and brakes, original spare tire, original rally wheels available, new paint in august 2008, 2 owner car, runs and drives great.
Source: Ken's Classic Cars
Comments: Now this is the car. Numbers matching engine with factory air. I like this style aftermarket wheel, so that saves us the money of buying them later. Oh, but do get the original rally wheels as you can see above and below how good looking they are on this body style. I would look to upgrade the interior to buckets and a factory console, then some minor suspension and engine mods to make the car more drivable for daily transportation.
1972 Chevrolet Monte Carlo - $17,995
Description: A luxury muscle car! Very nice 1972 Monte Carlo Custom
that's loaded with options. Powered by a #'s matching 402 big block that
has been rebuilt and features a mild cam with updated valve guides. Only
around 10,000 miles have been put on the car since the rebuild. This is
only a two owner car. Options include working factory AC, power
steering, in-dash tachometer, cruise control and power disc brakes. This
is a very nice car that runs excellent. Cruise in style and comfort!
Source: Streetside Classic Cars
Comments: This is not blue, but a numbers matching big block goes a long way with me. The price is a little up there, but this dealer had a video of this car on YouTube that made we want to buy it. If it was below my usual $15K target for this column this car would be #1.
1972 Chevrolet Monte Carlo - $11,995
Description: Gorgeous blue paint on perfect black bench, 350 C.I. V-8, automatic, front discs, ps, pb, AM/FM/CD, dual exhaust, and we have the original build sheet! This is a beautiful Monte, one of the cleanest, straightest, and best driving that we've ever seen! A true classic Chevy cruiser, this car is completely done and ready to cruise the water front or win a trophy at the car show! Don't miss out on this sweetheart.
Source: Austin's Pro Max Performance
Comments: Lacking bucket seats, but this car is in my favorite color, blue. That has a lot of pull with me. In general this looks like a nice, stock car. I would love to have this as a driver/project car. If it had A/C it would be listed before the green car above.
1974 Dodge Dart Sport - $19,595
Description: Are you looking for a really nice 74 Frosty Green Dodge
Dart Sport with 64,331 believed to be actual miles? Then look no
further!! This one has bucket seats, fold down rear seat, map and trunk
light, rear window defrost and a halo vinyl roof!
Source: Streetside Classic Cars
Comments: This car is an old friend. Back in September 2004 I displayed this car when it was selling for $8,200. Be sure to read my old comments, as they are long and pertinent today. Whoever bought it kept the mileage low. It was advertised with 61K miles then, and 5 years later is only has 64K miles. And look at the price change. This car has more than doubled in price in 5 years. Just goes to show even the lesser cars from the Muscle Car era are going up in value.
1967 Mercury Cougar XR7 - $12,900
Description: 94,000 actual miles. 4 owner lifelong west coast car. 289 V8, automatic transmission, power steering, power front disc brakes, tilt away steering column, rebuilt factory air conditioning, XR7 In-Dash gauge package, center console, original vinyl top and wire caps. Window sticker, books, manuals and service history. Just tuned and serviced. Turn the key and enjoy.
Source: Memory Lane Motors
Comments: I like the Cougar from the 60s. They are a Gentleman's Mustang. Complete with console and air conditioning this car fits right in with the Monte Carlos listed this month. We have got to do something with those wheels and tires though.
1968 Pontiac Firebird Convertible - $16,950 (Reduced to $13,500)
Description: Under the hood sports a 4.1L overhead cam 6 cylinder engine coupled to automatic transmission and power steering. Other features include Rallye wheels, AM/FM Stereo, CD Player, newer tires, and newer paint.
Source: Classic Auto Showplace LTD
Comments: This car was originally posted in this column in October 2008. Almost a year later it is still for sale, but at over $3,000 less money. Is this due to the economy. I think so. Higher priced Muscle Cars with real value will take less of a beating. But this is a car that would appeal to a light collector, someone buying his only collectible car. That person has to keep an eye on his finances in these tough times. I am not looking for convertibles anymore, but if I were this would be at the top of my list. Oh, and love the OHC Inline 6.
1967 Pontiac LeMans - $13,995 (Reduced to $11,995)
Description: Beautifully restored 1967 Pontiac Lemans, 326 ci engine, power brakes. Stunning body and paint, no known rust, mint interior, excellent chrome and stainless.
Source: Premium Motors
Comments: I found this car a while back, and was ready to cast off the ad because I had not used it. But I saw the car still on their web site a couple months later and the price came down $2,000. So I had to use it to show how it is important to keep track of the cars you are interesting in.
1971 Pontiac Formula 400 - $16,995 (Reduced to $15,995)
Description: 91k original miles, factory 4 speed, have build sheet, original interior, show quality body and paint, no know rust, chrome and stainless in good condition.
Source: Premium Motors
Comments: Here's a case where I noticed a price drop within a couple of weeks. This should make for a pretty fast Pony car. All we need is air conditioning for some serious cruising.
1970 Road Runner - $25,995 (Reduced to $21,995 then to $18,995)
Description: Powered by a stock 383ci V8 engine with automatic transmission. Finished in Purple Metallic with Black custom cloth interior. Equipped with Factory gauges, original fender tag, Magnum 500 wheels, CD player in glove box, hood pins, original glass, new carpet, power steering, excellent trunk/frame/floors, body is laser straight with little to no defects, paint looks great, and the Road Runner decals are perfect. Road Runners are becoming harder and harder to find. This RR is ready to be driven and taken to shows.
Source: Holt Auto Sales
Comments: This is one of the reasons to track cars you see on the Internet. I originally displayed this car on this column in September 2008, almost a year ago. I really liked it then. Holt's web site on my most recent visit showed this car with a regular price of $21,995 and a sale price of $18,995. In August 2008 when I found it this car was listed on Holt's web site at $25,995. That's a drop of 7 grand. I really wish I had the money for this car. I have to assume the custom interior is the turn off. But at a discount of $7,000 you can easily put the money into this car to restore the interior to stock. I guess the big question is if this is a real Road Runner with a numbers matching engine.
1967 Pontiac Tempest Custom - $16,500 (Reduced to $14,900)
Description: This is an outstanding example of a low mileage, well cared for Tempest Custom Sports Coupe. The car was purchased from the original owner's family approximately seven years ago. Since the purchase, necessary mechanical items have been replaced as needed (i.e. shocks, hoses, water pump, etc.) and a complete repaint in the original color done to a higher quality than the original factory paint. An inspection of this Tempest reveals a true "time capsule" appearance of all interior components to include rubber, glass, plastic chromed pieces, etc. This is a desirable vehicle in today's market, as original, low mileage, high quality vehicles are very rare and can command a market value which can exceed "book value". PHS documentation is included to prove that it is not a GTO clone! :: 61,654 actual miles, 230 CID/ 165 HP Overhead Cam 6-Cylinder engine, automatic transmission, Gold with black vinyl interior, power steering, Firestone Red Line Tires, Rally II Steel wheels, AM Radio, and Tilt Steering wheel.
Source: Classic Auto Showplace Ltd.
Comments: Here is another car that is going down in price. I showed this car here in January 2008 and October 2008. Both those times it was listed at $16,500. I saw this car still listed in May of 09, but listed at $14,900. Why hasn't this car sold in almost two years?
I think I might know why this car is not selling. Look closely at the quarter panels. Look nice, right? But there is something missing. Take another look at the white Le Mans above. See the difference. This car does not have its original quarter panels. It has GTO quarter panels that did not have the "gills." This could put off a purist.
I still want it. If I had the money I would make a serious offer.
1971 Chevrolet Monte Carlo - $10,000
Description: Dark bronze, black cloth, black vinyl top, 350 V8, restoration in 2001, all original, original owner, ready to drive and show.
Source: Auto Trader Classics
Comments: The picture on this one is pretty poor. But I could not
resist the original owner reference in the description. If I were in the
market I would have to call about this just to make sure. This vehicle
was also in the rust belt so be careful of that.
1970 Chevrolet Monte Carlo - $11,500
Description: 350 4BBL, dual exhaust, new paint, black interior, runs and looks great, must sell.
Source: Auto Trader Classics
Comments: I thought all the slotted mag wheels where bought up to
make the Starsky & Hutch movie. The description is a bit short, and we
need more pictures, but there is no reason not to check this car out